No Thoughts At All?

by Cadmar
(Richmond)

If one is in a sensor deprivation chamber and after a while emotions are ended, would that lead to having no thoughts in the brain?

My view is that the mind resembles an automated production line. It cycles continuously, while it is conscious. It intuitively selects "priorities" and triggers into consciousness the next one of the many thoughts running in many parallel systems.

Emotions cannot be ended. They can only be quietened. Under the circumstances, any one of a myriad sequence of thoughts can step into consciousness.

Sensory deprivation is believed to lead a level of disorientation. The possibilities are endless.

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I think we're saying the same things that the neural patterns produce "thoughts" to a state in which we are conscious of (be able to sense the thoughts) and is also a small component to the entire functions of the brain. I read that the conscious component can be compared to as a small closet in a mansion of many rooms (the other functions of the brain).

I can also summarize all my thoughts as a product of my body's physical needs for survival which are: nourishment, safety, and the ability to reproduce. It is then a natural progression to make the claim that all my thoughts are variations to "I want". In essence, for some reason, the patterns of neurons are triggering my "I want" from essential needs to desires (things I desire).

So, in one sense, the body will always produce the neural patterns for the essentials "I need" for survival, but does not need "thoughts" to have this accomplished. In other words, to have no thoughts is to have no "I want". And to "I want" to have no "I want (thoughts)" will never work as how can a thought which is basically dead and is a product of these neural patterns change or end another neural pattern?

To me, the only way to end "I want" (which is thought) is to end the source for "I want".

What do you think? Am I simplifying too much? I wait for your insights.

Even the most complex ideas can still be expressed in simple terms. But, neural pattern recognition is more complex than "I want." Only death can stop all neural activity.

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No thoughts At All?
by: Cadmar

If the mind is an automated production line that cycles continuously (in a conscious state), then there must be some source for this energy. That is if a thought is a pattern of excited neurons then this pattern has no power to cause or trigger another thought. That means that the source for thoughts must come from outside the brain and through the sensors (all these sensory sources are outside the brain).

My view is that all nerve cells are recognizing patterns and responding, or becoming inhibited on an ongoing basis. As long as the brain is alive, the needed energy is available for this process.

Emotions can be viewed as sophisticated chemical release within the brain. Perhaps these chemical release are not the source for thoughts even though the brain senses them.

Emotions are triggered by neural activity in the limbic system - also an ongoing process, even while dreaming.

In a deprivation chamber would it not reduce these sensor sources for thoughts and hopefully a reduction in the amount of chemical release within the brain.

A deprivation chamber could trigger the emotion of panic.

If this is the case, then, there should be a small or little source for any pattern of thoughts. Eventually, will you not end up as having no source for any patterns of thought or the real subtle source or ability that has the energy to stimulate patterns of neurons?

In a deprivation chamber one can become disoriented because the the feedback loop is broken. The pattern of neurons reflect the on-going sensory sensation which will always be 100% accurate. Different amount of energy will have a different number and pattern of neurons. Because the brain does not have sensors then that ability to read the differences between the two patterns must come outside the brain in some capacity as an accute sensory for "vibration".

I hope this kind of gets to what I am asking?

Thoughts do not provide the energy for neural functions. They are the result of such functions.

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